This is an unusual rhetorical gambit from Alan Dershowitz: Marginal Democratic candidates certainly benefit from moving to the left on national security issues, but serious candidates–candidates who want to have any realistic chance of prevailing in the general election–must not allow themselves to be pushed, shoved or even nudged away from a strong commitment to national security. Consider, for example, the contentious and emotionally laden issue of the use of torture in securing preventive intelligence information about imminent acts of terrorism… There are some who claim that torture is a nonissue because it never works–it only produces false information. This is simply not true, as evidenced by the many decent members of the French Resistance who, under Nazi torture, disclosed the locations of their closest friends and relatives...
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If the Nazis could make it work, why not us?
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November 8, 2007
This is an unusual rhetorical gambit from Alan Dershowitz:
Marginal Democratic candidates certainly benefit from moving to the left on national security issues, but serious candidates–candidates who want to have any realistic chance of prevailing in the general election–must not allow themselves to be pushed, shoved or even nudged away from a strong commitment to national security.
Consider, for example, the contentious and emotionally laden issue of the use of torture in securing preventive intelligence information about imminent acts of terrorism…
There are some who claim that torture is a nonissue because it never works–it only produces false information. This is simply not true, as evidenced by the many decent members of the French Resistance who, under Nazi torture, disclosed the locations of their closest friends and relatives.
You know, I was on the fence there about torture, until Dershowitz pointed out it really worked well for the Nazis! Color me convinced!
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| Comment pos ted: by j.wizard on 09 Nov 2007 - 20:22 | Right. So, IT IS demon liars, who murder ourselves for stolen profit to say otherwise. How do we defeat these enemies? By LAW. Easy, if YOU People would support Justice for ourselves as measured. Just check out this to see where we could take ourselves as equally committed to FREEDOM for Everyone as measured.
New World Orders - The King Has Spoken
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THE GREAT KING OF AMERICA
PBS et al.. The bushmob is thieving billions from America as we speak, to further terrorize a dying America lost to the indifference broadcasted daily on almost every radio and TV network as our silenced voices.
Mr. Bush, the terrorist, doesn't care to war for your stolen billions, instead wants to kill even more innocent others as neoconner traitor. In your name as "American." Johnny America begs to disagree with criminals actually, and has taken a stand against these 911 war mongers escaping our authority for proper Public acknowledgment. If you, my reader, would only support yourself.
Please, my friends, fight for our dying America. The TV and radio celebs deliberately refuse to allow US to know: Ahmad funded Atta, and, of the videos of steel flowing like water from the WTC towers - all to KILL ourselves for the enemy liar neocon. To KILL. OUR innocent families are being robbed and murdered. CJOB, in Winnipeg, like FOXNEWS, lies daily to dumber than average teen soldiers, not to defend freedom, or Canada, but to die for dope pushing Islamic fundamentalism in assisting the truly evil neocons escape for the crimes of 911. How can anyone be so truly evil to Humanity you may hide in fear of confronting directly? CJOB relentlessly THIEVES from Manitobans, with our seriously corrupt lotteries they pocket millions in criminal gains stolen from our most poor and desperate, they work to CRIMINALLY give away our public resources to their self described Zionist, 'kill the Jews, kill the Jews' anti-humans. These nazi pigs celebrate their public hatred for innocent humans with LIES about 911, Israel, and anything else that threatens Justice to win through free open communications. Bush, as does every neocon, needs to be tried publicly then executed for the crimes of 911 with his partner, General Ahmad, according to every honorable Police agency that uses evidence to form OUR conclusions. Please fight for Justice, please fight for Life, please fight for yourself by picking up YOUR phone and calling for a Humanity that would care if you tried to do what was right. Do you expect yourself to fail trying? Just try for your life's sake I beg, just try. Or.. die you will, die YOU will. Christ kills a bushite with a Love for GOD that will never die, but I AM ONLY ONE MAN. WE HATE bushite to death I do, see?, wouldn't you as anywho too? Think about it. Dying as a slave to the demon antichrist, or live for a better future by demanding Justice IS Freedom. We want to be Just for ourselves to be believed in. We, The people, want true accountability. Don't be cowardly stupider than stupid allots.
It is not just a Muslim who sees the bushite as an enemy to Humanity. These lawless savages have been acting without accountability to anyone, because they are largely enemies of every American, who cowardly run from responsibility in America to defend their own brothers and sisters from the LIAR neocon, and die instead as/with rapists, torturers, and Art Bell liking THIEVES. An Oath to God means nothing to a busite grunting savaged criminal, claiming to be lawless as an enemy to EVERY HUMAN BEING. Remember: these thieves have stolen from all still paying Americans dying from true self contempt. No evidence against an accused is US being truly abused. [...]
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